Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 (EDT)
Subject: Re: More emails on Sir
RAMPHAL--middle
Sutley,
You are very polite addressing the man as Sir that you say betrayed
and sell Indians causing injustice to humanity. Is there a reason
for the Sir or you are just a gentle man working on his conscious.LoL.
Yeah Jahaji all, the same money India would give to build a
stadium we should make a representation to them to take that money and
build back the Archives which that brother (Atman) found to be 70%
destroyed.
Things like these we become active and just not
sit here and write alone. Action speaks louder than words so what
should do as the older head here Sutley. Should we
pass around a petition objecting that waste of funds and calling for
it to spent on building back the archives in India. A petition
can go a far way all across the West Indies, UK, North America and
then to the Indian Gov't. It is highly likely due to past history that
the raakshaas will
break up such a stadium any shouting slogans that this
is Indian mark here lets burn it down. Conscious move
Hari
India considers funding 20,000-seat
World Cup stadium
“We have to be prepared to move quickly”- Jagdeo
The Indian government has agreed to consider building a
multi-purpose stadium to boost Guyana’s bid to host cricket matches
during the 2007 World Cup to be staged in the West Indies.
Subject: [IndianCaribbean]
dirty tricks and Indian money.
Hello Bros and Sisters,
Is it for real that India would help fund a 20,000 seater cricket
Stadium in Guyana? Should Indians put their resources (money) into building
a nation's public infrastructure in the West Indies especially Guyana? We
have seen this in places like Guyana where local Indians have raised
money to build places like schools, hospitals, community centers
etc. Is there an imbalance of such types of contributions/
donations comparing Indos and Afros? Is there an
imbalance of contributions between Afro business personnel's and Indo
business personnel's supporting things like sponsorship of West
Indian programs (general)??
We must be aware by now that over the years Indians in
the West Indies have endured the most
heinous types
of atrocities and injustice unleashed
on them by
Negroes. Of course, the Indian victimisation, suffering and
destruction we should make prominently always (never forget). So that our
grandchildren and later generations be aware of what kind of unjust
history we have and some of the terrible things ( black oppression,
persecution) our kind of people have lived with.
We should
reflect on our experiences how much we gave and built already and how
that is being taken advantage of. That today we are deemed to have
money and thus we hear hateful calls such as, take from the
Indians....Indians have money. Sad, I am poor and a victim of
black oppression donno about you guys.Lets look at a few experiences
before we answer, should India pour in their resources as mentioned
above?
We see how a
Caribbean radio program on Saturday nights 100.7 FM host by a so
called Indian. Indian businesses would advertise on this program,
have helped it financially but the MC entertains the Afro Caribbean
music taste and exclude Indian entertainment. You all know this guy?
He has a serious problem giving the nod to anti-multiculturalism in
the Caribbean. A foreigner can listen to his program/music
and believe that Indians does not belong to the Caribbean especially
after Sundar Popo died. I remember hearing some Indian tunes before
Sundar Popo died on this so-called Caribbean program. A community
that should foster multiculturalism since the Caribbean is home to
Indians as well. Should Indians become more conscious and love
themselves to take action in a civil way not to support programs
from a host who suits his kind of adopted culture only and
exclude us?
We
remember the popular national culture in Guyana that was built with
Indian Indentured Labourers Funds. The centre was built to facilitate Indian
programs among others and to pay tribute to our Ancestors who toiled
to develop Guyana. What happened after it was built? Permission
was denied by the Burnham regime to hold Indian Indentured Arrival day
programs at this same centre built with Indentured funds. Wow.
Unfortunately our deceased sister devout Indian culture promoter
Latchmi Kallicharran could not foretell such injustice.
Sister
Latchmi is one of the prominent Indian culture promoters who died
mysteriously in Guyana. Her home in Kitty Georgetown
was burnt mysteriously one can say and she perished in the blaze while
the doors were found locked from outside. God rest her sweet soul. We
shall keep our eyes, ears and minds open because Indian history should
not be heed in vain. Unity and love.
Hari
Subject: Re: [Guyanese] World Cup stadium for Guyana???/How silly. If
the Indian Government can give us a stadium, that will go down in
history as the Government of India's contribution to Guyana. It will
be a landmark. never mind the hassles about contracts etc
Bibi
Khan

Dear Bharat Vasi and Sarkar,(People
of India and it's Government)
Thank you for opening your hearts to your people that although left
many generations ago, you still recognize. Thank you for working with
us to establish, build and maintain a link among all Indians
regardless of generations. We too are trying through various
organizations like GOPIO. I don't consider it as a favour you grant
us, but we express gratitude as that is what my Indian heritage
teaches me....humility with dignity.
I'm married to a Guyanese man and when I tell people, I'm from India
but my husband is Guyanese....the only response I've gotten is..he's
still Indian though, just they left a few generations ago and you and
I have recently left India. There will always be people with the
miserable mentality. We cannot allow them to cripple our thoughts and
actions.
Thank you for gathering us into your folds......as we gain our
identity from India....we too are ambassadors of India and we are both
incomplete without each other.
Meena Santdasani
Hardatt
Born in Lucknow, India.
".because a small action can create big change ! "
Subject:RE: Subject: [IndianCaribbean] dirty tricks
and Indian money.
Date:
Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:42:15 -0400
Alvin,
You are going to be accused of spreading racism even
though you are speaking the truth.
I welcome the investment in Guyana and it is good that you point out
that no African country has made any such investment - they have
diamond mines and oil but they still need the world to give them food
and financial aid. The stadium will be for all Guyanese who can afford
to buy tickets. On the issue of radio/TV programs we are all to blame.
When the programs do not carry "chutney" music we complain
about the religious content. I believe that there are enough media
access to "western" program and not enough of
"eastern" programs.
It is regrettable that the government which classifies itself as the
world largest democracy would take such actions. However, we must be
certain that it was the government that took those actions and not the
private owners of the sites. We have to bear in mind that no one would
accept criticism such as that which we sent forward because after all,
an award was presented to a world
class crook/criminal. To acknowledge what we pointed
out would subject them to ridicule so instead of doing what is correct
they stoop to hiding behind the firewalls.At least they have not
bombarded us with negativities such as that we get from affiliates of
the PNC.
On the subject of the stadium and the criticism
coming in against Sutley I wish to remind our brothers
and sisters that in the '70s LFSB "(Emperor
Linden Forbes Sampson Burnham) "co-charred" the
Indians lead by Maha Sabha and the Pandit Council into supporting the
building of facilities that would enhance the Guyanese culture.
Indians would have equal access, etc., etc. The Cultural Centre was
built and in time Indians did get access. However as time unfolded,
the access to space became more restrictive, and let us not forget the
location where it was built either!!! A perfect spot for young Indian
girls to go to in order to get training in dancing and music etc. It
was a perfect location for them to step out at nights after
classes!!!!
Freedom of speech is a right given at birth. The doctor slapped our
bottoms in order to reinforce that fact. No one should try to close it
down.
Ram Singh